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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Is Very, Very Simple</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Is Very, Very Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 14:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind.  It looked like it had been deleted.  Sorry about that.</description>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 00:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did you delete my last post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you delete my last post?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2791</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how very clever. Look at AFP. Let me know how many you think all the coverage will bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how very clever. Look at AFP. Let me know how many you think all the coverage will bring.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2788</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say that, but the Bill of Rights doesn&#039;t say that only citizens are entitled to its protections.

I didn&#039;t say that all Iraqis knew about the alleged atrocities.  But you also don&#039;t know how many people learned of them from Murtha&#039;s statement, so quit pretending that you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say that, but the Bill of Rights doesn&#8217;t say that only citizens are entitled to its protections.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that all Iraqis knew about the alleged atrocities.  But you also don&#8217;t know how many people learned of them from Murtha&#8217;s statement, so quit pretending that you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2777</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 20:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, so everyone is entitled to American citizenship. There we see the problem. Maybe when the rest of the world starts recognizing our constitutional rights we can discuss that.

You do not know how many Iraqis knew about this, stop acting like you do. I can promise you they all know now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so everyone is entitled to American citizenship. There we see the problem. Maybe when the rest of the world starts recognizing our constitutional rights we can discuss that.</p>
<p>You do not know how many Iraqis knew about this, stop acting like you do. I can promise you they all know now.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2775</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaius,

Tell me where in the Bill of Rights it exempts ANYONE from its protections.

Also, tell me exactly how Murtha&#039;s statement violates anyone&#039;s rights.  He said he has information that atrocities were committed.  He didn&#039;t single anyone out by name.

You&#039;ve stated that he&#039;s endangered troops, but that seems unlikely--Iraqis already know about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaius,</p>
<p>Tell me where in the Bill of Rights it exempts ANYONE from its protections.</p>
<p>Also, tell me exactly how Murtha&#8217;s statement violates anyone&#8217;s rights.  He said he has information that atrocities were committed.  He didn&#8217;t single anyone out by name.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve stated that he&#8217;s endangered troops, but that seems unlikely&#8211;Iraqis already know about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2770</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juggler - I could care less what those two have to say - I have almost never listened to them. I am getting tired of you throwing what others say at me and telling me to defend it. GO ASK THEM. 

Enemy combatants not covered by the Geneva or Hague conventions are a real problem I do not know the answer to. But they are not entitled to US constitutional protection. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juggler &#8211; I could care less what those two have to say &#8211; I have almost never listened to them. I am getting tired of you throwing what others say at me and telling me to defend it. GO ASK THEM. </p>
<p>Enemy combatants not covered by the Geneva or Hague conventions are a real problem I do not know the answer to. But they are not entitled to US constitutional protection. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, how about those people held in Guantanamo for 4 1/2 years without a trial.  How about innocent until proven guilty for them?

Here&#039;s Bill O&#039;Reilly on the people at Guantanamo:

&quot;I donâ€™t give them any protection. I donâ€™t feel sorry for them. In fact, I probably would have ordered their execution if I had the power.&quot;

And here&#039;s Sean Hannity:

&quot;[t]here&#039;s nobody at GuantÃ¡namo Bay that&#039;s there for nothing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, how about those people held in Guantanamo for 4 1/2 years without a trial.  How about innocent until proven guilty for them?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Bill O&#8217;Reilly on the people at Guantanamo:</p>
<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t give them any protection. I donâ€™t feel sorry for them. In fact, I probably would have ordered their execution if I had the power.&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s Sean Hannity:</p>
<p>&#8220;[t]here&#8217;s nobody at GuantÃ¡namo Bay that&#8217;s there for nothing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Black Jack</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does John Murtha jump to conclusions when it comes to Patrick Kennedy, or Ted Kennedy, or Bill Clinton, or does he take a &quot;wait and see&quot; position when it&#039;s politically convenient to look the other way?

Does John Murtha only assume the worst when it&#039;s out troops at issue, or does he think Saddam deserves the benefit of the doubt, how about Osama? Do they get a pass while our boys get the back of his hand?

I wonder if he thinks the Duke Lacrosse team should be lynched before they ever get their day in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does John Murtha jump to conclusions when it comes to Patrick Kennedy, or Ted Kennedy, or Bill Clinton, or does he take a &#8220;wait and see&#8221; position when it&#8217;s politically convenient to look the other way?</p>
<p>Does John Murtha only assume the worst when it&#8217;s out troops at issue, or does he think Saddam deserves the benefit of the doubt, how about Osama? Do they get a pass while our boys get the back of his hand?</p>
<p>I wonder if he thinks the Duke Lacrosse team should be lynched before they ever get their day in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2743</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful, Diva. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, Diva. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Diva</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2741</link>
		<dc:creator>Diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juggler - it&#039;s presumed innocent until proven guilty.  You conveniently left out the key word alleged. It should be alleged shameful acts. Murtha, had no business opening his mouth on this one until the investigation was finished. He is a disgrace. All he had to do was wait for the outcome and then he could&#039;ve booked himself on all the network news shows and talked about his &quot;Feelings&quot; until he was good and satisfied. As it stands now, Murtha is an opportunistic pig who has put politics above all else.


Also, it&#039;s not about disclosing information about a criminal case - this is about disclosing the information associated with a military investigation and tribunal - two completely different things. AND, here&#039;s the big AND - most criminal investigations DO NOT disclose information pertinent to the case until trial - it&#039;s called a LEAK when it&#039;s done. Publicly discussing the investigation is not part of our constitutional rights- a fair trial is. You are just used to &quot;the discussion&quot; because the Media has made it their job to sensationalize crimes and pre-trial information. 

And your last statement even if it is missing the word ALLEDGED, is absolutely correct that is why the Military is investigating this case.  There was nothing Murtha had to do or say to shed light on this case because a group of Military investigators were already doing their job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juggler &#8211; it&#8217;s presumed innocent until proven guilty.  You conveniently left out the key word alleged. It should be alleged shameful acts. Murtha, had no business opening his mouth on this one until the investigation was finished. He is a disgrace. All he had to do was wait for the outcome and then he could&#8217;ve booked himself on all the network news shows and talked about his &#8220;Feelings&#8221; until he was good and satisfied. As it stands now, Murtha is an opportunistic pig who has put politics above all else.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not about disclosing information about a criminal case &#8211; this is about disclosing the information associated with a military investigation and tribunal &#8211; two completely different things. AND, here&#8217;s the big AND &#8211; most criminal investigations DO NOT disclose information pertinent to the case until trial &#8211; it&#8217;s called a LEAK when it&#8217;s done. Publicly discussing the investigation is not part of our constitutional rights- a fair trial is. You are just used to &#8220;the discussion&#8221; because the Media has made it their job to sensationalize crimes and pre-trial information. </p>
<p>And your last statement even if it is missing the word ALLEDGED, is absolutely correct that is why the Military is investigating this case.  There was nothing Murtha had to do or say to shed light on this case because a group of Military investigators were already doing their job.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggler</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2732</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just absurd.

By your standards, criminal cases should not be disclosed until the investigation is complete.

You say you&#039;re not for a coverup, but what you are proposing makes it much easier for a coverup to happen.

You&#039;re also trying to change the subject, from the alleged atrocity to Murtha&#039;s supposed disgrace.

There is no disgrace in shedding light on shameful acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just absurd.</p>
<p>By your standards, criminal cases should not be disclosed until the investigation is complete.</p>
<p>You say you&#8217;re not for a coverup, but what you are proposing makes it much easier for a coverup to happen.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also trying to change the subject, from the alleged atrocity to Murtha&#8217;s supposed disgrace.</p>
<p>There is no disgrace in shedding light on shameful acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2731</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Diva.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Diva.</p>
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		<title>By: Diva</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/05/18/this-makes-me-sick/comment-page-1/#comment-2727</link>
		<dc:creator>Diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaius,
Excellent post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaius,<br />
Excellent post.</p>
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