Comments on: The Usual Suspects

By: Gaius

Gaius — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:33:33 +0000

Which is why there are a few vexations who don’t get to comment here.

By: Donna

Donna — Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:22:35 +0000

Gaius, remember that prose called ‘Desiderata’? I hope I spelled that word correctly. Anyway, it is a poetic piece that once upon a time I had in print on a frame-worthy parchment-like page. I guess I lost my copy, but I was reminded of one line of it when I read this post and comments about the ugly talk coming from either side of politics.
That line is, ‘avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit’

By: FormerRighty

FormerRighty — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:31:40 +0000

My apologies, then.

By: Gaius

Gaius — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:16:01 +0000

I did condemn Coulter.

By: FormerRighty

FormerRighty — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:06:14 +0000

Black Jack, did any of those people suggest that blowing up a major newspaper would be a good thing, as Ann Coulter did? Did any of those people suggest that blowing up the State Department would be a good thing, as Pat Robertson did? Did any of those suggest that government agents should be shot, as G. Gordon Liddy did?

No, the threats of violence have been coming from the right, not the left.

Yes, what Frisch did was out of line. I agree with you there. But you won’t condemn Ann Coulter, instead you complain that you’re not her, so I shouldn’t suggest that you criticize her on your blog.

So here it is–do you think that Ann Coulter deserves a place in the national media, given her history of calling for violence? A simple question.

By: Black Jack

Black Jack — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:48:26 +0000

Foty said, “Somehow, you think that Ward Churchillâ€™s and Deb Frischâ€™s statements make the left as a whole look bad, even though they are relatively obscure commentators…”

Yep. They do. But it isn’t only the “relatively obscure” who reveal the instability behind all the Lefty hate speech. Here’s a few more well recognized names who do pretty much the same thing: Michael Moore, Jimmy Carter, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pilosi, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Algore, Cindy Sheehan, Alec Baldwin, John Murtha, Cynthia McKinney, Any Kennedy, Pinch Sulzberger, Bill Keller, Dean Baquet, MoDo, Barbara Strisand, Keith Obermann, Mary Mapes, Dan Rather, Susan Serandon, George Soros, Barbara Boxer…. I could go on and on, but let me make the point:

There is no absence of “relatively high profile” nitwits around who do a darn fine job of making the Left look bad.

By: Gaius

Gaius — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:16:53 +0000

One more outright lie and you are not going to be welcome here. Go look at what I wrote on Frisch and tell me I condemned the left. I didn’t. There is a line there, it is not equivalent and both you and Greenwald know it. Frisch involved a child. Out of bounds.

I condemned her.

By: FormerRighty

FormerRighty — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:09:25 +0000

You expect people on the left to condemn outrageous statements by others on the left, yet you are unwilling to condemn outrageous statements by those on the right.

Somehow, you think that Ward Churchill’s and Deb Frisch’s statements make the left as a whole look bad, even though they are relatively obscure commentators, yet when prominent right-wing commentators such as Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh make outrageous statements, you take offense at suggestions that perhaps you would do well to condemn what they say.

By: Gaius

Gaius — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:03:29 +0000

And I went to someone’s site and demanded they do so how? Please do not take something out of context like that and try to apply it to a totally different situation.

By: FormerRighty

FormerRighty — Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:52:57 +0000

Quoting from a post by Gaius:

I wish there werenâ€™t people doing so in several places. I also wish more than a few on the left had condemned this.

Gaius, don’t complain about and ban people for behavior you engage in yourself.