Comments on: French Lose Grip On Reality http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:27:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » French FM Pulls A Kerry http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-15113 Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » French FM Pulls A Kerry Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:16:54 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-15113 [...] In an amazing display of a deft diplomatic pirouette, the French Foreign Minister, Philippe Douste-Blazy, did a complete 180 from his statement a few days ago. He had called Iran a "respected, stabilizing influence" in the Middle East. Today, after hearing Ahmadinehjad's latest "peace proposal", he announced the exact opposite. France's foreign minister condemned Ahmadinehjad's comments Thursday, saying Iran is ruining its chances to play a positive and stabilizing role in the Middle East. [...] [...] In an amazing display of a deft diplomatic pirouette, the French Foreign Minister, Philippe Douste-Blazy, did a complete 180 from his statement a few days ago. He had called Iran a "respected, stabilizing influence" in the Middle East. Today, after hearing Ahmadinehjad's latest "peace proposal", he announced the exact opposite. France's foreign minister condemned Ahmadinehjad's comments Thursday, saying Iran is ruining its chances to play a positive and stabilizing role in the Middle East. [...]

]]> By: Black Jack http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14852 Black Jack Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:49:02 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14852 Having only a high school acquaintance with the French language, it may be presumptuous of me to say I don't believe it's possible to speak French and to think in ways considered rational among normal folks. Now, don't get me wrong, I like the French, I just don't like them all that much. Having only a high school acquaintance with the French language, it may be presumptuous of me to say I don’t believe it’s possible to speak French and to think in ways considered rational among normal folks. Now, don’t get me wrong, I like the French, I just don’t like them all that much.

]]> By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14811 Gaius Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:54:01 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14811 You keep changing the debate, then demand I address your new points. Typical way to shut down debate. Take it elsewhere - I am royally sick of this today. You keep changing the debate, then demand I address your new points. Typical way to shut down debate. Take it elsewhere – I am royally sick of this today.

]]> By: Former Republican http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14809 Former Republican Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:49:09 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14809 Gaius, you can say France was corrupt all you want, but all sorts of countries opposed us. Were they all corrupt? And the fact remains: France and like-minded countries turned out to be right. Your thesis reminds me of the lefties who think that Cheney orchestrated the Iraq war to enrich Halliiburton and the oil companies. Is that the kind of company you want to travel in? People who think that everyone opposed to them acts strictly from venal motives? You originally claimed that "Iran has it’s hand in starting a lot of wars" Now you are making a different claim, that "Iran has been supporting terrorists for years." Support for terrorists is different than starting wars. Gaius, you can say France was corrupt all you want, but all sorts of countries opposed us. Were they all corrupt? And the fact remains: France and like-minded countries turned out to be right.

Your thesis reminds me of the lefties who think that Cheney orchestrated the Iraq war to enrich Halliiburton and the oil companies. Is that the kind of company you want to travel in? People who think that everyone opposed to them acts strictly from venal motives?

You originally claimed that “Iran has it’s hand in starting a lot of wars” Now you are making a different claim, that “Iran has been supporting terrorists for years.” Support for terrorists is different than starting wars.

]]> By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14803 Gaius Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:32:18 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14803 Corruption was a major driver for France. So was their long-standing policy of opposing the US to garner favor with a number of third world countries (witness the efforts they made through Africa to drum up opposition to the US.) Iran has been supporting terrorists for years. They have been promoting Palestinian teror as well as Hezbollah. Corruption was a major driver for France. So was their long-standing policy of opposing the US to garner favor with a number of third world countries (witness the efforts they made through Africa to drum up opposition to the US.)

Iran has been supporting terrorists for years. They have been promoting Palestinian teror as well as Hezbollah.

]]> By: Former Republican http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14796 Former Republican Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:17:53 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14796 The record shows that France was right about Iraq not being an immediate danger. I'm a little tired of hearing claims that "France's judgement on Iraq was driven by corruption..." If that were true, then France would have joined us around about February 2003, when it became obvous Bush was going to war no matter what, so that they would get a place at the table when the time came to divvy up contracts, etc. Also, France wasn't the only country opposing us. Was Chile corrupt? Was Mexico corrupt? Was Belgium corrupt? Was Canada corrupt? Etc., etc. Gaius claims that Iran "has it's [sic] hand in starting a lot of wars, such as the one in Lebanon right now." Could be. It's a reasonable theory that Iran put Hezbeollah up to capturing those Israeli soldiers. But there's no reliable evidence of it that I know of. I can't think of any other war that you could plausibly claim Iran had a hand in starting. The record shows that France was right about Iraq not being an immediate danger. I’m a little tired of hearing claims that “France’s judgement on Iraq was driven by corruption…” If that were true, then France would have joined us around about February 2003, when it became obvous Bush was going to war no matter what, so that they would get a place at the table when the time came to divvy up contracts, etc. Also, France wasn’t the only country opposing us. Was Chile corrupt? Was Mexico corrupt? Was Belgium corrupt? Was Canada corrupt? Etc., etc.

Gaius claims that Iran “has it’s [sic] hand in starting a lot of wars, such as the one in Lebanon right now.” Could be. It’s a reasonable theory that Iran put Hezbeollah up to capturing those Israeli soldiers. But there’s no reliable evidence of it that I know of. I can’t think of any other war that you could plausibly claim Iran had a hand in starting.

]]> By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14784 Gaius Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:12:42 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14784 France's judgement on Iraq was driven by corruption or haven't you heard of the oil for food scam? Iran has it's hand in starting a lot of wars, such as the one in Lebanon right now. France’s judgement on Iraq was driven by corruption or haven’t you heard of the oil for food scam? Iran has it’s hand in starting a lot of wars, such as the one in Lebanon right now.

]]> By: Former Republican http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14783 Former Republican Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:09:02 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14783 France's judgment regarding Iraq turned out to be correct. Maybe they are correct again. And, as for stability, it's worth remembering that Iran has not started a war in last century (maybe consdierably longer). France’s judgment regarding Iraq turned out to be correct. Maybe they are correct again. And, as for stability, it’s worth remembering that Iran has not started a war in last century (maybe consdierably longer).

]]> By: Don Singleton http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14775 Don Singleton Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:18:13 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14775 <strong>Mideast peace process...</strong> The French Foreign Minister then passed out samples of the funny cigarettes he had been smoking, and every one had a fine time, as far as they can remember.... Mideast peace process…

The French Foreign Minister then passed out samples of the funny cigarettes he had been smoking, and every one had a fine time, as far as they can remember….

]]> By: Liberty and Justice http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14755 Liberty and Justice Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:36:06 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14755 <strong>Iran and France: Two Countries Deeply In Love...</strong> Today France expressed her love for the Mullah ruled country of Iran. Where the majority opinion in the West is that Iran is ruled by Muslim extremists; where most governments in the West consider Iran to be a threat to the stability of the region; whe... Iran and France: Two Countries Deeply In Love…

Today France expressed her love for the Mullah ruled country of Iran. Where the majority opinion in the West is that Iran is ruled by Muslim extremists; where most governments in the West consider Iran to be a threat to the stability of the region; whe…

]]> By: A Blog For All http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-14752 A Blog For All Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:26:29 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/07/31/french-lose-grip-on-reality/#comment-14752 <strong>Diplomacy and the Hounds of Hell, Part XIV...</strong> Putting the UN in charge of peacekeeping in South Lebanon will not address the issues, nor will it result in improved security for Israel or Lebanon.... Diplomacy and the Hounds of Hell, Part XIV…

Putting the UN in charge of peacekeeping in South Lebanon will not address the issues, nor will it result in improved security for Israel or Lebanon….

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