Comments on: This Isn’t Good http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:27:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: phil http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15224 phil Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:07:27 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/#comment-15224 To think that Hezbollah could be winning is bizarre - as this would mean Isreal was pushed back into their own territory. Has hezbollah inflicted damage and fear - yes of course. Have they lost - no. This one will be like a prize boxing fight - Israel will win points - but hez won a few by standing up to Israel. In the PR camp, not sure. Both sides have taken big hits. I think this is like every other conflict in the Middle East, all sides get a bit bloodied up - and the PR machines run overtime and the rest of the world waits for the next flare up. Like a mini-series... http://www.what-a-world.com To think that Hezbollah could be winning is bizarre – as this would mean Isreal was pushed back into their own territory. Has hezbollah inflicted damage and fear – yes of course. Have they lost – no.

This one will be like a prize boxing fight – Israel will win points – but hez won a few by standing up to Israel. In the PR camp, not sure. Both sides have taken big hits.

I think this is like every other conflict in the Middle East, all sides get a bit bloodied up – and the PR machines run overtime and the rest of the world waits for the next flare up. Like a mini-series…

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]]> By: A Blog For All http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15216 A Blog For All Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:11:02 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/#comment-15216 <strong>Diplomacy and the Hounds of Hell, Part XVIII...</strong> The Israeli war against Hizbullah continues, with Israel striking targets throughout Lebanon and Israeli ground forces continue to move towards the Litani River. Targets were hit in Beirut, which puts Nasrallah in a most curious position. He was busy..... Diplomacy and the Hounds of Hell, Part XVIII…

The Israeli war against Hizbullah continues, with Israel striking targets throughout Lebanon and Israeli ground forces continue to move towards the Litani River. Targets were hit in Beirut, which puts Nasrallah in a most curious position. He was busy…..

]]> By: crosspatch http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15185 crosspatch Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:42:44 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/#comment-15185 What I will do when all is said and done is to look at how things are situated on the ground. If there is actually a strong force put in as a buffer that is not afraid to shoot at Hezbollah, then Hezbollah has lost. If Israel is forced to hold the ground then I don't know. Hezbollah surviving isn't so important in the long term. What will be most important is that Israel kicked the heck out of Hezbollah without Syria getting involved, without Iran getting involved, without any great material rally (other than words) from other Arab countries. No matter what happens, Hezbollah has had some of the lead knocked out of their pencil and if later this year push comes to shove with Iran, any Iranian threats to use Hezbollah as a proxy force to use against Israel will have lost a lot of credibility. If nothing else, this has weakened Iran. It would be the loss of a rook on their chess board. Israel, on the other hand, has experianced no great loss out of this. Everyone realizes that Israel could have used much more force than they have to date. What I will do when all is said and done is to look at how things are situated on the ground. If there is actually a strong force put in as a buffer that is not afraid to shoot at Hezbollah, then Hezbollah has lost. If Israel is forced to hold the ground then I don’t know. Hezbollah surviving isn’t so important in the long term. What will be most important is that Israel kicked the heck out of Hezbollah without Syria getting involved, without Iran getting involved, without any great material rally (other than words) from other Arab countries.

No matter what happens, Hezbollah has had some of the lead knocked out of their pencil and if later this year push comes to shove with Iran, any Iranian threats to use Hezbollah as a proxy force to use against Israel will have lost a lot of credibility. If nothing else, this has weakened Iran. It would be the loss of a rook on their chess board. Israel, on the other hand, has experianced no great loss out of this. Everyone realizes that Israel could have used much more force than they have to date.

]]> By: farfrom6t746where http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15179 farfrom6t746where Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:07:03 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/08/03/this-isnt-good-2/#comment-15179 The article quote says: "America wants, America needs, a decisive Hezbollah defeat." In the interview with Olmert at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2296832,00.html Olmert indicates that the goals of the Israel invasion are to re-estabilsh deterrence and set conditions for which an international force can enter lebanon in order to fulfill unresolution and disarm hezbullah and return control of the entire country to the Lebanese government. The purpose is not to prevent missile attacks or destroy hezbullah. The article quoted says: "Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has provided unsteady and uncertain leadership. Foolishly relying on air power alone, he denied his generals the ground offensive they wanted, only to reverse himself later." The ground offensive got off to a "slow" start because the IDF Generals wisely took time to learn about the weapons and tactics of hezbullah and to see how well Israeli weapons and tactics held up before comitting a large force. The lessons learned were used in training for additional troops called up. In this light, it is amazing how quickly the IDF got involved, assessed what to do, and then committed a large force. The following quote is from: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525793842&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter "One of the first results of the IDF's experiences facing Hizbullah antitank missiles has been the quick adaptation of new training for reserve units that have just been called up. In addition to weapons and first aid refresher lessons, the men mobilized this week have all received special training on detecting and avoiding the missiles." The article quote says: “America wants, America needs, a decisive Hezbollah defeat.”

In the interview with Olmert at
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2296832,00.html
Olmert indicates that the goals of the Israel invasion are to re-estabilsh deterrence and set conditions for which an international force can enter lebanon in order to fulfill unresolution and disarm hezbullah and return control of the entire country to the Lebanese government. The purpose is not to prevent missile attacks or destroy hezbullah.

The article quoted says: “Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has provided unsteady and uncertain leadership. Foolishly relying on air power alone, he denied his generals the ground offensive they wanted, only to reverse himself later.”

The ground offensive got off to a “slow” start because the IDF Generals wisely took time to learn about the weapons and tactics of hezbullah and to see how well Israeli weapons and tactics held up before comitting a large force.

The lessons learned were used in training for additional troops called up. In this light, it is amazing how quickly the IDF got involved, assessed what to do, and then committed a large force.

The following quote is from: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525793842&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter

“One of the first results of the IDF’s experiences facing Hizbullah antitank missiles has been the quick adaptation of new training for reserve units that have just been called up. In addition to weapons and first aid refresher lessons, the men mobilized this week have all received special training on detecting and avoiding the missiles.”

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