We Hate To Say We Told You So

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Aw, heck, no we don't. Told ya:

VIRGINIA BEACH, Oct. 7 — As word of Representative Mark Foley’s sexually explicit e-mail messages to former pages spread last week, Republican strategists worried — and Democrats hoped — that the sordid nature of the scandal would discourage conservative Christians from going to the polls.

But in dozens of interviews here in southeastern Virginia, a conservative Christian stronghold that is a battleground in races for the House and Senate, many said the episode only reinforced their reasons to vote for their two Republican incumbents in neck-and-neck re-election fights, Representative Thelma Drake and Senator George Allen.

“This is Foley’s lifestyle,” said Ron Gwaltney, a home builder, as he waited with his family outside a Christian rock concert last Thursday in Norfolk. “He tried to keep it quiet from his family and his voters. He is responsible for what he did. He is paying a price for what he did. I am not sure how much farther it needs to go.”

The Democratic Party is “the party that is tolerant of, maybe more so than Republicans, that lifestyle,” Mr. Gwaltney said, referring to homosexuality.

Most of the evangelical Christians interviewed said that so far they saw Mr. Foley’s behavior as a matter of personal morality, not institutional dysfunction.

All said the question of broader responsibility had quickly devolved into a storm of partisan charges and countercharges. And all insisted the episode would have little impact on their intentions to vote.

It is too soon to tell if the scandal will affect the turnout of evangelical Christians, who make up about a quarter of the electorate and more than a third of Republican voters. Some of President Bush’s political advisers have said that pre-election reports in 2000 that Mr. Bush was once arrested for drunken driving depressed turnout among conservative Christians, nearly costing him the White House.

If the New York Times is reporting this, it is an indication of the magnitude of the backfire the Democrats have brought on themselves. You can bet it's actually even worse for the Dems than the NYT is reporting. The carnival barkers made a major error.

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8 Responses to We Hate To Say We Told You So

  1. ajacksonian says:

    My guess is that this coupled with the North Korean test will lead to folks not liking mere political distractions in times of danger. It seems that those doing the pointing are noticing their lack of clothing in times of ill climate… summer of scandals are over now… welcome to fall…

  2. Bill Franklin says:

    >The Democratic Party is “the party that is tolerant of, maybe more
    > so than Republicans, that lifestyle,” Mr. Gwaltney said, referring to
    > homosexuality.

    How can we trust anyone who makes such a cartoonish misrepresentation of hte Republican party’s views? It’s the Democrats who are the haters, right?

    > It is too soon to tell if the scandal will affect the turnout of evangelical Christians, who make up about a quarter of the electorate and more than a third of Republican voters.

    That seems to be an important line.

  3. Gaius says:

    Atta boy, Billy Jim Bob. Pick one line out of the story and hang on tight to it. Forget the rest that says the smear job does not work the way it was planned.

    Why? Because, quite simply, the evangelicals are not the cartoonish portrait the left paints. This whole sideshow was put on – openly – to suppress the evangelical vote. You have an answer to how well the tactic worked.

  4. Bill Franklin says:

    More races are now up for grabs post-Foley than before the scandal hit. That’s a fact. You can try to claim most conservatives aren’t phased by the scandal based on a few interviews with fundamentalists, but poll numbers are indicating otherwise, as the article mentioned. 53% of Americans do not want the Republicans to have control of congress. I also found this fundamentalist quote from that article rather amusing: “But there is a bigger moral issue which I would say is the prism I view this through: I do not believe in homosexuality” Clearly this person is not grounded in reality. I’m sure that guy would believe the Loose Change video if it was a Democratic President.

    We’ll know for the sure impact of Foley in four weeks. I’ll be curious to see if the Dems try to spin the North Korea test as an example of foreign policy failure by the Bush Administration. Sadly such serious issues don’t have near as much “draw” as a sex scandal.

    Jim Billy Bob Thorton

    ps – I miss the updates on Iraq from your Son; is he still over there, and if so, what’s his take on the last throes (May, 2005) of the insurgency?

  5. Gaius says:

    The Dems are spinning it. They overlook the fact that the plutonium was saved for them by Clinton.

    Lovely.

  6. Bill Franklin says:

    > They overlook the fact that the plutonium was saved for them by Clinton.

    Oh man…that’s rich. Are you implying the IAEA is a branch of the Executive? Financed from the Whitehouse budget? How did *Clinton* save the plutonium?

    I wonder how much being called part of the Axis of Evil and then seeing one of your fellow axis memebers get invaded motivates a country to produce the single item that would scare away the world’s superpower – A Nuke. Cutting off direct dialog also seems counterproductive.

  7. BubbaB says:

    Uh, so how does one Nuke, that may or may not work, “scare away the world’s superpower”, that has thousands of functional Nukes? Not just city-destroying monsters, but several city block-destroying babies…

    And a non-nuclear device that can level a small city. And bunker-busters, that could take out Kim without much effort.

    Why are we afraid of him? WE aren’t – the idiots on the left are afraid of him.

  8. Bill Franklin says:

    > Why are we afraid of him? WE aren’t – the idiots on the left are afraid of him.

    You should be BubbaB, if you care about US citizens. Are you aware that 30,000 US citizens are just 30 miles away from North Korea’s southern border? That’s right, we have 30K troops stationed in and around Seoul, South Korea. I guess you have to be an “idiot on the left” to be worried about NK lobbing a nuke over the border and kill tens of thousands of US citizens… It’s true, “idiots on the left” are worried about US troops. Oh wait, that doesn’t make sense, you “righties” are the pro-troops people, we lefties hate the troops. But since you’re not afraid, you don’t care about 30K troops suffering a nuclear blast. Lefties call your position a paradox, BubbaB. Care to more fully explain your benighted position?

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