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		<title>By: TC@LeatherPenguin</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-28606</link>
		<dc:creator>TC@LeatherPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Drewski?&lt;/b&gt;
Sorry, I went on vacation... that what us evil bastards guys that created their own dime do.

Anyway, short answer: &quot;NO.&quot; I live on Staten Island, NY. The only frickin&#039; place in the city where Repubs have any stones....

And I regularly throw rocks at the little guido I refer to as my &quot;Congressional robot,&quot; while my Wife asks, &quot;&quot;You know this guy... and you rip him right to his face?&quot;
ME: He&#039;s a big boy; he can take it.&quot;
HER: &quot;What if he gets pissed?&quot;
ME: &quot;He walkies into my world and I got better guns.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Drewski?</b><br />
Sorry, I went on vacation&#8230; that what us evil bastards guys that created their own dime do.</p>
<p>Anyway, short answer: &#8220;NO.&#8221; I live on Staten Island, NY. The only frickin&#8217; place in the city where Repubs have any stones&#8230;.</p>
<p>And I regularly throw rocks at the little guido I refer to as my &#8220;Congressional robot,&#8221; while my Wife asks, &#8220;&#8221;You know this guy&#8230; and you rip him right to his face?&#8221;<br />
ME: He&#8217;s a big boy; he can take it.&#8221;<br />
HER: &#8220;What if he gets pissed?&#8221;<br />
ME: &#8220;He walkies into my world and I got better guns.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-27583</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Drew, TC is just TC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Drew, TC is just TC.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-27581</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you got the idea that LeatherPenquin is actually a red herring and he is only stirring up anger to keep us talking and keep the study &quot;controversial&quot; -- official GOP/NRA/oil industry tactics. Plants like these are everywhere -- usually spotted by their arrogant incoherance -- don&#039;t feed them and they will die off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you got the idea that LeatherPenquin is actually a red herring and he is only stirring up anger to keep us talking and keep the study &#8220;controversial&#8221; &#8212; official GOP/NRA/oil industry tactics. Plants like these are everywhere &#8212; usually spotted by their arrogant incoherance &#8212; don&#8217;t feed them and they will die off.</p>
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		<title>By: My Own Thoughts &#187; 600,000 is so wrong</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-27372</link>
		<dc:creator>My Own Thoughts &#187; 600,000 is so wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blue Crab Boulevard says there would need to be more than 500 deaths A DAY for this to be true. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blue Crab Boulevard says there would need to be more than 500 deaths A DAY for this to be true. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-27297</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that TC@LP doesn&#039;t like math, but here&#039;s some more just for fun:

US Deaths (in the continental 48 states):
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2,450,149.2159 deaths per year in 9,631,420 sq km&lt;/a&gt;
0.254 per sq km per year

Iraqi Deaths:
166,250 deaths per year in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iz.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;437,072 sq km&lt;/a&gt; (665,000 over 4 years)
0.380 per sq km per year

That&#039;s a 67 percent increase in geographic density over the United States, a first world country at peace within our borders.  I don&#039;t even see a funeral procession very often, and we handle the dead bodies just fine.  In a country experiencing open war, this isn&#039;t surprising, and it doesn&#039;t mean that they would be &quot;tripping over&quot; the bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that TC@LP doesn&#8217;t like math, but here&#8217;s some more just for fun:</p>
<p>US Deaths (in the continental 48 states):<br />
<a href="https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html" rel="nofollow">2,450,149.2159 deaths per year in 9,631,420 sq km</a><br />
0.254 per sq km per year</p>
<p>Iraqi Deaths:<br />
166,250 deaths per year in <a href="https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/iz.html" rel="nofollow">437,072 sq km</a> (665,000 over 4 years)<br />
0.380 per sq km per year</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a 67 percent increase in geographic density over the United States, a first world country at peace within our borders.  I don&#8217;t even see a funeral procession very often, and we handle the dead bodies just fine.  In a country experiencing open war, this isn&#8217;t surprising, and it doesn&#8217;t mean that they would be &#8220;tripping over&#8221; the bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: LeatherPenguin: Nobody Reads This &#187; I Thought I was Packing a Happy Just Busting Balls on Blue Crab Boulevard</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeatherPenguin: Nobody Reads This &#187; I Thought I was Packing a Happy Just Busting Balls on Blue Crab Boulevard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This, pilgrims, tops my blathering riffs in Gauis&#8217;s crib: What Could Be Funnier Than An Episode Of South Park That Makes Fun of 9/11 &#8220;Truthers&#8221;?   Filed under: Generic Crap and InterWeb and Funny Comments: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This, pilgrims, tops my blathering riffs in Gauis&#8217;s crib: What Could Be Funnier Than An Episode Of South Park That Makes Fun of 9/11 &#8220;Truthers&#8221;?   Filed under: Generic Crap and InterWeb and Funny Comments: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TC@LeatherPenguin</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26748</link>
		<dc:creator>TC@LeatherPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys? Dolls? Longhaired Hippies?

Let&#039;s all breath through our bellybuttons,
deep and earnestly,
 and say, &quot;Ohhmmm... WTF?&quot;
And grab a single malt and a flagon of beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys? Dolls? Longhaired Hippies?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all breath through our bellybuttons,<br />
deep and earnestly,<br />
 and say, &#8220;Ohhmmm&#8230; WTF?&#8221;<br />
And grab a single malt and a flagon of beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Jack</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26710</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaius, given the number of defenders and their hysterical pronouncements here, an outside observer could easily conclude that Bill Clinton wrote the silly report, and that Sandy Burgler stands ready to verify the conclusions, as soon as he looks at the data in his socks.
 
Next Lancet could shift focus to Lebanon. A good follow-up survey could include asking &quot;Green Helmet Man&quot; how many ambulances were necessary to transport all those cadavers around the war ravaged countryside so they could be photographed over and over again at different locations. You know, just to perk up the totals and compensate for any unintentional oversights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaius, given the number of defenders and their hysterical pronouncements here, an outside observer could easily conclude that Bill Clinton wrote the silly report, and that Sandy Burgler stands ready to verify the conclusions, as soon as he looks at the data in his socks.</p>
<p>Next Lancet could shift focus to Lebanon. A good follow-up survey could include asking &#8220;Green Helmet Man&#8221; how many ambulances were necessary to transport all those cadavers around the war ravaged countryside so they could be photographed over and over again at different locations. You know, just to perk up the totals and compensate for any unintentional oversights.</p>
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		<title>By: TC@LeatherPenguin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC@LeatherPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triple M? the period I cited was 1940-1945. And mostly involved one country getting the bejeezus beat out of them, Germany.

Now, I got a squash I grew in my yard that&#039;s kinda more orange than green sitting here; does that make it a citrus fruit?

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slashies rule the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triple M? the period I cited was 1940-1945. And mostly involved one country getting the bejeezus beat out of them, Germany.</p>
<p>Now, I got a squash I grew in my yard that&#8217;s kinda more orange than green sitting here; does that make it a citrus fruit?</p>
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slashies rule the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraqi Response To Lancet &#8220;Study&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26703</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraqi Response To Lancet &#8220;Study&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Omar at Iraq The Model has a few things to say to the researchers who conducted the much discussed Lancet study purporting to show extremely high casualties in Iraq. He takes rather great exception to the entire study, the motivation for it and the people who conducted it. They shamelessly made an auction of our blood, and it didn&#8217;t make a difference if the blood was shed by a bomb or a bullet or a heart attack because the bigger the count the more useful it becomes to attack this or that policy in a political race and the more useful it becomes in cheerleading for murderous tyrannical regimes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Omar at Iraq The Model has a few things to say to the researchers who conducted the much discussed Lancet study purporting to show extremely high casualties in Iraq. He takes rather great exception to the entire study, the motivation for it and the people who conducted it. They shamelessly made an auction of our blood, and it didn&rsquo;t make a difference if the blood was shed by a bomb or a bullet or a heart attack because the bigger the count the more useful it becomes to attack this or that policy in a political race and the more useful it becomes in cheerleading for murderous tyrannical regimes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MathMatics Major</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26701</link>
		<dc:creator>MathMatics Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC, how many people (civilian and military) died in WWII???? How long was WWII? What was the pre, current ans post war mortality rate? Don&#039;t bring up WWII to support your claim here because if you look into the 62million people(3% of the worlds population) killed world wide due to WWII then you&#039;ll see 4% of the iraqi population killed in the last 3 years 7 months is not a crazy number. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TC, how many people (civilian and military) died in WWII???? How long was WWII? What was the pre, current ans post war mortality rate? Don&#8217;t bring up WWII to support your claim here because if you look into the 62million people(3% of the worlds population) killed world wide due to WWII then you&#8217;ll see 4% of the iraqi population killed in the last 3 years 7 months is not a crazy number.</p>
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		<title>By: TC@LeatherPenguin</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26700</link>
		<dc:creator>TC@LeatherPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pullquote used for your reasoning to explain my &quot;hatred of science&quot; branding is patently ridiculous. &quot;He find the methods questionable; therefore, He despises Science in its entirety.&quot;  It&#039;s as lame as your little Latin EG. Good God, you&#039;re probably college educated, aren&#039;t you? And never were forced to plant your ass in a Rhetoric 101 class.

&quot;2) No statistician is going to call anotherâ€™s work â€œbulletproofâ€ without going over *everything*.&quot;

Which goes back to my original question which has drawn me further into this circle jerk of a comment thread than I ever expected: Who were the &quot;peers&quot; that did the review;accepted it as solidly constructed, and signed off on the report&#039;s release. Supposedly, those folks DID go over *everything*. Just &#039;cause Lancet claimed it happened don&#039;t mean it&#039;s true. Let&#039;s hear who signed off on this thing.

Or maybe Lancet&#039;s reviewers are akin to Jason Leopold&#039;s &quot;sources&quot; in his reportage of Karl Rove&#039;s signed and sealed &quot;Plamegate&quot; indictment.

&quot;And attention in the blogsphere has never driven a story that the mainstream media ignored, right?&quot;

Dude, I just checked Memeorandum. The only mention was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009509.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this piece from Jane Galt.&lt;/a&gt; She, too, thinks the numbers are bunk.

The blogs have already written this off and gone looking for better material than this farcical bit of partisan fluff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pullquote used for your reasoning to explain my &#8220;hatred of science&#8221; branding is patently ridiculous. &#8220;He find the methods questionable; therefore, He despises Science in its entirety.&#8221;  It&#8217;s as lame as your little Latin EG. Good God, you&#8217;re probably college educated, aren&#8217;t you? And never were forced to plant your ass in a Rhetoric 101 class.</p>
<p>&#8220;2) No statistician is going to call anotherâ€™s work â€œbulletproofâ€ without going over *everything*.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which goes back to my original question which has drawn me further into this circle jerk of a comment thread than I ever expected: Who were the &#8220;peers&#8221; that did the review;accepted it as solidly constructed, and signed off on the report&#8217;s release. Supposedly, those folks DID go over *everything*. Just &#8217;cause Lancet claimed it happened don&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s true. Let&#8217;s hear who signed off on this thing.</p>
<p>Or maybe Lancet&#8217;s reviewers are akin to Jason Leopold&#8217;s &#8220;sources&#8221; in his reportage of Karl Rove&#8217;s signed and sealed &#8220;Plamegate&#8221; indictment.</p>
<p>&#8220;And attention in the blogsphere has never driven a story that the mainstream media ignored, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude, I just checked Memeorandum. The only mention was <a href="http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009509.html" rel="nofollow">this piece from Jane Galt.</a> She, too, thinks the numbers are bunk.</p>
<p>The blogs have already written this off and gone looking for better material than this farcical bit of partisan fluff.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Asymmetrical Common Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Asymmetrical Common Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Asymmetrical Information has a must read of the Lancet study that said there have been such enormously high casualties and gives some vital perspective. I agree that there are a lot of deaths. But I don&#039;t think that there are as many as the Lancet study makes out. Not because I am comparing them to one-time events like Nagasaki, which I agree is silly. But even comparing them to other long term wartime figures makes it look to big. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Asymmetrical Information has a must read of the Lancet study that said there have been such enormously high casualties and gives some vital perspective. I agree that there are a lot of deaths. But I don&#39;t think that there are as many as the Lancet study makes out. Not because I am comparing them to one-time events like Nagasaki, which I agree is silly. But even comparing them to other long term wartime figures makes it look to big. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26697</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then proof by insult is also not accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then proof by insult is also not accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: TC@LeatherPenguin</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/10/10/bull/comment-page-2/#comment-26692</link>
		<dc:creator>TC@LeatherPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and &lt;b&gt;Engineer?&lt;/b&gt; Lancet&#039;s number is higher than the toll after Bomber Command dropped nearly a million tons of stuff, indiscriminately, leveling entire cities, &lt;a href=&quot;http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/this_is_ridiculous/#169888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; on Europe during WWII.&lt;/a&gt;

So no, those cluster bombs don&#039;t come close to a mitigating factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and <b>Engineer?</b> Lancet&#8217;s number is higher than the toll after Bomber Command dropped nearly a million tons of stuff, indiscriminately, leveling entire cities, <a href="http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/this_is_ridiculous/#169888" rel="nofollow"> on Europe during WWII.</a></p>
<p>So no, those cluster bombs don&#8217;t come close to a mitigating factor.</p>
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