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	<title>Comments on: LA Times Endorses Harman</title>
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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-44747</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard &#187; Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The LA Times fired a warning shot last week, letting Nancy Pelosi know that passing over Jane Harman for the chair of the intelligence committee would be bad for her media coverage. This week, they fire the first broadside with intent. Pelosi indicated as early as last year that she intended to oust Harman from the Intelligence Committee &#8212; where Harman expected to become chairwoman if Democrats won control of the House &#8212; in favor of someone more to Pelosi&#039;s liking. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The LA Times fired a warning shot last week, letting Nancy Pelosi know that passing over Jane Harman for the chair of the intelligence committee would be bad for her media coverage. This week, they fire the first broadside with intent. Pelosi indicated as early as last year that she intended to oust Harman from the Intelligence Committee &mdash; where Harman expected to become chairwoman if Democrats won control of the House &mdash; in favor of someone more to Pelosi&#39;s liking. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: W.B. Reeves</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-44111</link>
		<dc:creator>W.B. Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gee, WB, you mean the Democrats who overwhelmingly voted against him?&quot;

Yes and the Republicans who voted against him as well. Your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gee, WB, you mean the Democrats who overwhelmingly voted against him?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and the Republicans who voted against him as well. Your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-44000</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, WB, you mean the Democrats who overwhelmingly voted against him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, WB, you mean the Democrats who overwhelmingly voted against him?</p>
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		<title>By: W.B. Reeves</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43998</link>
		<dc:creator>W.B. Reeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Wikipedia:

&quot;Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case back to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.

Sporkin found some &quot;crucial distinctions&quot;[2] between Nixon&#039;s case and Hastings&#039;, specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually &quot;tried&quot; his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.

The Supreme Court, however, ruled that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, and Sporkin&#039;s ruling was vacated, and Hastings&#039; conviction and removal were upheld.&quot;

So to re-cap, Hastings was indeed impeached, albeit by an irregular proceeding, on the basis of accusations of criminal activity prior to any actual finding of guilt in a court of law. When Hastings finally had his day in a real court of law, he was acquitted of all charges. Yes, such a scandal. Imagine, a man who has never been convicted of a crime being allowed to serve in government.  It should be enough that his political enemies engineered his legislative lynching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hastings filed suit in federal court claiming that his impeachment trial was invalid because he was tried by a Senate committee, not in front of the full Senate, and that he had been acquitted in a criminal trial. Judge Stanley Sporkin ruled in favor of Hastings, remanding the case back to the Senate, but stayed his ruling pending the outcome of an appeal to the Supreme Court in a similar case regarding Judge Walter Nixon, who had also been impeached and removed.</p>
<p>Sporkin found some &#8220;crucial distinctions&#8221;[2] between Nixon&#8217;s case and Hastings&#8217;, specifically, that Nixon had been convicted criminally, and that Hastings was not found guilty by two-thirds of the committee who actually &#8220;tried&#8221; his impeachment in the Senate. He further added that Hastings had a right to trial by the full Senate.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court, however, ruled that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over Senate impeachment matters, and Sporkin&#8217;s ruling was vacated, and Hastings&#8217; conviction and removal were upheld.&#8221;</p>
<p>So to re-cap, Hastings was indeed impeached, albeit by an irregular proceeding, on the basis of accusations of criminal activity prior to any actual finding of guilt in a court of law. When Hastings finally had his day in a real court of law, he was acquitted of all charges. Yes, such a scandal. Imagine, a man who has never been convicted of a crime being allowed to serve in government.  It should be enough that his political enemies engineered his legislative lynching.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43798</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should learn what the terms mean, andy. He was impeached by the House and tried in the Senate, convicted and removed from the bench. That is the process as specified in the constitution.

Impeachment is roughly the same as an indictment. Clinton was impeached but not convicted and removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should learn what the terms mean, andy. He was impeached by the House and tried in the Senate, convicted and removed from the bench. That is the process as specified in the constitution.</p>
<p>Impeachment is roughly the same as an indictment. Clinton was impeached but not convicted and removed.</p>
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		<title>By: andy phx</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43797</link>
		<dc:creator>andy phx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rusty, even though pelosi said that impeachment is off the table, i cant help but think they have created so many skeletons the public out cry for impeachment would be deafening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rusty, even though pelosi said that impeachment is off the table, i cant help but think they have created so many skeletons the public out cry for impeachment would be deafening.</p>
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		<title>By: andy phx</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43796</link>
		<dc:creator>andy phx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he wasnt tried and convicted of anything! he was however impeached. for once i agree with a right winger that this would be a bad choice. funny but you never have criticized bush for making bad choices out of loyalty. look how long he held on to Ruinsfeld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he wasnt tried and convicted of anything! he was however impeached. for once i agree with a right winger that this would be a bad choice. funny but you never have criticized bush for making bad choices out of loyalty. look how long he held on to Ruinsfeld.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds more like a lose lose for Bush,  either one of these candidates is going to hammer the administration, and all this foo fa ra about how the Democrats organized their caucus will be quickly forgotten, once impeachment proceedings, proceed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds more like a lose lose for Bush,  either one of these candidates is going to hammer the administration, and all this foo fa ra about how the Democrats organized their caucus will be quickly forgotten, once impeachment proceedings, proceed.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43743</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harman fell afoul the nasty biyotch somehow and now must avoid the swamp that the Ogress of the House is refilling with ancient hacks and outright crooks like Hastings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harman fell afoul the nasty biyotch somehow and now must avoid the swamp that the Ogress of the House is refilling with ancient hacks and outright crooks like Hastings.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if Pelosi bypasses both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Pelosi bypasses both of them.</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Nancy Pelosi go 0-2?</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/11/17/la-times-endorses-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-43674</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanGrounds &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Nancy Pelosi go 0-2?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gaus at Blue Crab Boulevard thinks that the L.A. Times is trying to give Nancy a sublte warnign about how they might cover her decision should she go with Hastings instead of Harman: They are strongly advising that Alcee Hastings would be an extraordinarily bad choice for that job. They are also telegraphing here. It will beÂ hazardous toÂ Pelosi&#8217;s future press coverage if she does this.[&#8230;] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gaus at Blue Crab Boulevard thinks that the L.A. Times is trying to give Nancy a sublte warnign about how they might cover her decision should she go with Hastings instead of Harman: They are strongly advising that Alcee Hastings would be an extraordinarily bad choice for that job. They are also telegraphing here. It will beÂ hazardous toÂ Pelosi&#8217;s future press coverage if she does this.[&#8230;] [...]</p>
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