Comments on: “But What Is Needed Now…..” http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:27:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Former Republican http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/comment-page-1/#comment-53169 Former Republican Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:41:40 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/#comment-53169 "Frankly, there should have been more on the ground sooner. That is looking back with 20/20 hindsight, of course." Hindsight? Hardly. General Shenseki (sp?) testified BEFORE the war that we would need "several hundred thousand" troops for the occupation. Over the course of 2003, it became very easy to see he was right -- if anything, his figure was too low. The Bush Administration denied reality for three long years. “Frankly, there should have been more on the ground sooner. That is looking back with 20/20 hindsight, of course.”

Hindsight? Hardly. General Shenseki (sp?) testified BEFORE the war that we would need “several hundred thousand” troops for the occupation. Over the course of 2003, it became very easy to see he was right — if anything, his figure was too low. The Bush Administration denied reality for three long years.

]]> By: Finnegan http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/comment-page-1/#comment-53167 Finnegan Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:13:13 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/#comment-53167 I agree that there should have been more troops on the ground to begin with. From what I've read, it sounds like a lot of the violence and instability could have been prevented if security had been in place from the beginning. That said, I'm not convinced that escalation or surge or whatever we call it, is going to accomplish security and stability in the current environment. I thought this article in Time was very interesting: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1573037,00.html We may be looking at a situation like Kosovo where the different sects have to just be completely segregated for the foreseeable future. I'm not as familiar with the structure of the Iraqi government as I'd like to be, but it seems like trying to forge a coalition at the top level is probably hopeless, and that divided government at the local level may be the best way to go. I would like to hear about a concrete plan that's drastically different from what we're doing now before I'd support putting a larger number of our troops in harm's way. I've been hearing for 3 years now that the Iraqis are almost ready to take over their own security. I agree that there should have been more troops on the ground to begin with. From what I’ve read, it sounds like a lot of the violence and instability could have been prevented if security had been in place from the beginning. That said, I’m not convinced that escalation or surge or whatever we call it, is going to accomplish security and stability in the current environment. I thought this article in Time was very interesting:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1573037,00.html
We may be looking at a situation like Kosovo where the different sects have to just be completely segregated for the foreseeable future. I’m not as familiar with the structure of the Iraqi government as I’d like to be, but it seems like trying to forge a coalition at the top level is probably hopeless, and that divided government at the local level may be the best way to go.

I would like to hear about a concrete plan that’s drastically different from what we’re doing now before I’d support putting a larger number of our troops in harm’s way. I’ve been hearing for 3 years now that the Iraqis are almost ready to take over their own security.

]]> By: Michael P.F. van der Galien http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/comment-page-1/#comment-53163 Michael P.F. van der Galien Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:36:00 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/#comment-53163 <strong>Lieberman Calls for More Troops...</strong> the violence has escalated so much now, the division is so big... that I believe that whatever the U.S. or the Iraqi government does, will not be suffice.... Lieberman Calls for More Troops…

the violence has escalated so much now, the division is so big… that I believe that whatever the U.S. or the Iraqi government does, will not be suffice….

]]> By: Confederate Yankee http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/comment-page-1/#comment-53160 Confederate Yankee Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:52:28 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/#comment-53160 <strong>Worlds Apart...</strong> It isn't likely that you needed a litmus test to gauge the widely divergent viewpoints on the Iraq War, but on the off chance that you did, Senator Joe Lieberman provided it in spades in an op-ed published in today's...... Worlds Apart…

It isn’t likely that you needed a litmus test to gauge the widely divergent viewpoints on the Iraq War, but on the off chance that you did, Senator Joe Lieberman provided it in spades in an op-ed published in today’s……

]]> By: Wake up America http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/comment-page-1/#comment-53153 Wake up America Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:21:24 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2006/12/29/but-what-is-needed-now/#comment-53153 <strong>Lieberman Pisses off the Dems...</strong> Jolting Joe did the unforgivable though, in the eyes of the far left and the anti-war, anti-military Democrats... He used the words "win" and "victory" in regards to Iraq. OMG.... Lieberman Pisses off the Dems…

Jolting Joe did the unforgivable though, in the eyes of the far left and the anti-war, anti-military Democrats… He used the words “win” and “victory” in regards to Iraq. OMG….

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