Comments on: Agendas http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:00:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/comment-page-1/#comment-54671 Gaius Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:13:31 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/#comment-54671 No, Angela, my feelings are not "hurt". What I am seeing is a rush to blame this on man and focusing on the US in particular. Perhaps if the historical records did not show that it has been substantially warmer and cooler in the past without man-induced warming, it might more of a cut and dried argument. Should we get off of the use of petroleum? Yes, but for a number of reasons. But some of the measures being promoted are disasterous for economies - at a time when more expenditures to switch over will be needed. No, Angela, my feelings are not “hurt”. What I am seeing is a rush to blame this on man and focusing on the US in particular. Perhaps if the historical records did not show that it has been substantially warmer and cooler in the past without man-induced warming, it might more of a cut and dried argument.

Should we get off of the use of petroleum? Yes, but for a number of reasons. But some of the measures being promoted are disasterous for economies – at a time when more expenditures to switch over will be needed.

]]> By: angela http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/comment-page-1/#comment-54670 angela Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:00:33 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/#comment-54670 It strikes me that your main argument against human-induced climate change is that the idea emerges from some sort of a global conspiracy to bring down the U.S. economy. Are pollution and unchecked CO2 emissions the backbone of American industry? It isn't just Chirac that points out the responsibilities of the U.S. South Africa's Environment Minister also points to the U.S. as a huge CO2 emitter. http://www.desmogblog.com/ipcc-quotes-from-around-the-world </a> It is no secret that India and China, along with Russia, are other major emitters ... so don't have hurt feelings that you were singled out. Keep in mind that a carbon tax would also apply to France and South Africa, so they are willing to accept as well as support this measure, should it be approved. As a leader in technology and economic enterprise, the U.S. should not only rise to the occasion, they should stand as an example for other industrialized nations seeking reduced or CO2 free solutions. It strikes me that your main argument against human-induced climate change is that the idea emerges from some sort of a global conspiracy to bring down the U.S. economy. Are pollution and unchecked CO2 emissions the backbone of American industry? It isn’t just Chirac that points out the responsibilities of the U.S. South Africa’s Environment Minister also points to the U.S. as a huge CO2 emitter. http://www.desmogblog.com/ipcc-quotes-from-around-the-world It is no secret that India and China, along with Russia, are other major emitters … so don’t have hurt feelings that you were singled out. Keep in mind that a carbon tax would also apply to France and South Africa, so they are willing to accept as well as support this measure, should it be approved. As a leader in technology and economic enterprise, the U.S. should not only rise to the occasion, they should stand as an example for other industrialized nations seeking reduced or CO2 free solutions.

]]> By: Polimom Says » Global Warming: A plot by the climatologists http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/comment-page-1/#comment-54663 Polimom Says » Global Warming: A plot by the climatologists Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:16:22 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/#comment-54663 [...] All sorts of folks are spinning and dancing, trying to avoid making any changes because Global Warming is either 1) not definitively caused by human activities, and/or 2) we can’t make it go away tomorrow. Add to that the suspicions that the U.S. is being picked on because of international jealousy, and there’s bound to be lots of pushback. [...] [...] All sorts of folks are spinning and dancing, trying to avoid making any changes because Global Warming is either 1) not definitively caused by human activities, and/or 2) we can’t make it go away tomorrow. Add to that the suspicions that the U.S. is being picked on because of international jealousy, and there’s bound to be lots of pushback. [...]

]]> By: Blue Crab Boulevard » Insufficiently Hysterical http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/comment-page-1/#comment-54653 Blue Crab Boulevard » Insufficiently Hysterical Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:18:36 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/03/agendas/#comment-54653 [...] Steyn also sees an attempt to put control of the world's economy into the hands of a transnational bureaucracy at the heart of all this. (I pointed that out yesterday.) The question is whether what's happening now is just the natural give and take of the planet, as Erik the Red and my town's early settlers understood it. Or whether it's something so unprecedented that we need to divert vast resources to a transnational elite bureaucracy so that they can do their best to cripple the global economy and deny much of the developing world access to the healthier and longer lives that capitalism brings. To the eco-chondriacs that's a no-brainer. As Mark Fenn of the Worldwide Fund for Nature says in the new documentary ''Mine Your Own Business'': [...] [...] Steyn also sees an attempt to put control of the world's economy into the hands of a transnational bureaucracy at the heart of all this. (I pointed that out yesterday.) The question is whether what's happening now is just the natural give and take of the planet, as Erik the Red and my town's early settlers understood it. Or whether it's something so unprecedented that we need to divert vast resources to a transnational elite bureaucracy so that they can do their best to cripple the global economy and deny much of the developing world access to the healthier and longer lives that capitalism brings. To the eco-chondriacs that's a no-brainer. As Mark Fenn of the Worldwide Fund for Nature says in the new documentary ''Mine Your Own Business'': [...]

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