Comments on: Down The Memory Hole http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:27:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cfaller96 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55897 cfaller96 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:06:32 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55897 Is that really true, though? You assign a lot of motivation to HuffPo based on...what, exactly? That they didn't take down the posts quickly enough? It's a valid criticism, I suppose, but I don't think it's anything to get righteous about. Look, HuffPo's a mess. I stopped commenting (and for that matter, visiting) at HuffPo because their commenting software "engine" and policy was at best inconsistent and inscrutable and at worst arbitrary and stupid. I hit the wall when a HuffPo administrator was sock-puppeting, which resulted in HuffPo kicking off a guest commenter that exposed it, yada yada yada and, well...that place is a mess, IMO, but I don't think that means that the Admins at HuffPo or Arianna herself <i>agreed</i> with the comments. They screwed up by not taking those comments down or (if possible) blocking those comments before they went up. It's still quite plausible that something nefarious happened at HuffPo, but I'll take a wait-and-see approach on that. Sometimes a screwup is just that, and to assume the screwup was deliberate is a stretch. Is that really true, though? You assign a lot of motivation to HuffPo based on…what, exactly? That they didn’t take down the posts quickly enough? It’s a valid criticism, I suppose, but I don’t think it’s anything to get righteous about.

Look, HuffPo’s a mess. I stopped commenting (and for that matter, visiting) at HuffPo because their commenting software “engine” and policy was at best inconsistent and inscrutable and at worst arbitrary and stupid. I hit the wall when a HuffPo administrator was sock-puppeting, which resulted in HuffPo kicking off a guest commenter that exposed it, yada yada yada and, well…that place is a mess, IMO, but I don’t think that means that the Admins at HuffPo or Arianna herself agreed with the comments.

They screwed up by not taking those comments down or (if possible) blocking those comments before they went up. It’s still quite plausible that something nefarious happened at HuffPo, but I’ll take a wait-and-see approach on that. Sometimes a screwup is just that, and to assume the screwup was deliberate is a stretch.

]]> By: Chris http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55886 Chris Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:39:47 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55886 Gaius can pull comments whenever he wants. This is his space. If we were having a discussion, when I didn't want to continue, I would walk away. If I didn't like what you said, for whatever reason, I could try to forget you ever said it. The same applies to the HuffPo. The point here is that the HuffPo pulled those comments only after people started noticing them, and commenting about their nature. They seem to have been embarrassed about them, not for their existence, but for people having noticed their existence. It's like me leaving porn all over the house, and only hiding of it after people start talking about my porn problem. Gaius can pull comments whenever he wants. This is his space. If we were having a discussion, when I didn’t want to continue, I would walk away. If I didn’t like what you said, for whatever reason, I could try to forget you ever said it. The same applies to the HuffPo.

The point here is that the HuffPo pulled those comments only after people started noticing them, and commenting about their nature. They seem to have been embarrassed about them, not for their existence, but for people having noticed their existence. It’s like me leaving porn all over the house, and only hiding of it after people start talking about my porn problem.

]]> By: cfaller96 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55873 cfaller96 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:04:30 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55873 Just to nitpick, Chris, but Gaius will pull comments down after they've been posted. It's been done to me a couple times. Not complaining, it's his blog, but I'm just sayin'. WRT to HuffPo, I don't think I understand Gaius' point. Is he claiming that HuffPo <i>sanctions</i> those comments, by...by...pulling those comments down?!? I just plain don't understand that- how does pulling a comment down indicate that HuffPo <i>condones</i> that comment? Or is his point that nutjobs/idiots/sleazeballs exist on the fringe of the left side of the political spectrum, capable of spewing hateful rhetoric? I'll gladly stipulate that, provided we all stipulate that they exist across the entire political spectrum (LGF comments, anyone?). Now, can we move to more constructive discussions, like how to ensure proper support for the troops at Walter Reed and other military hospitals? Did I miss Gaius' post about this? Just to nitpick, Chris, but Gaius will pull comments down after they’ve been posted. It’s been done to me a couple times. Not complaining, it’s his blog, but I’m just sayin’.

WRT to HuffPo, I don’t think I understand Gaius’ point. Is he claiming that HuffPo sanctions those comments, by…by…pulling those comments down?!? I just plain don’t understand that- how does pulling a comment down indicate that HuffPo condones that comment?

Or is his point that nutjobs/idiots/sleazeballs exist on the fringe of the left side of the political spectrum, capable of spewing hateful rhetoric? I’ll gladly stipulate that, provided we all stipulate that they exist across the entire political spectrum (LGF comments, anyone?).

Now, can we move to more constructive discussions, like how to ensure proper support for the troops at Walter Reed and other military hospitals? Did I miss Gaius’ post about this?

]]> By: Chris http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55845 Chris Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:24:23 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55845 So, mrgone, by your logic, when the administrator of this site fails to post your opinions here, he is revising history, even though I am virtually certain that said opinions were never displayed at all. Whereas the Huffington Post is not, because they removed the comments after others had seen them, and objected to their content, presumably after they had passed through some type of oversight. Got it. So, mrgone, by your logic, when the administrator of this site fails to post your opinions here, he is revising history, even though I am virtually certain that said opinions were never displayed at all.

Whereas the Huffington Post is not, because they removed the comments after others had seen them, and objected to their content, presumably after they had passed through some type of oversight.

Got it.

]]> By: mrgone http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55808 mrgone Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:12:42 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55808 Sort of like what happens on this site to me about 50% of the time - BTW, it's not for profanity or abusive language. Mainly for opinions you don't like. Sort of like what happens on this site to me about 50% of the time – BTW, it’s not for profanity or abusive language. Mainly for opinions you don’t like.

]]> By: Gayle Miller http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55802 Gayle Miller Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:32:38 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55802 They were probably expunged because many of those comments veered WAY over the line into outright threatening the life of the Vice President or calling for his assassination which is a Federal crime - Ariana wouldn't look good in prison garb! They were probably expunged because many of those comments veered WAY over the line into outright threatening the life of the Vice President or calling for his assassination which is a Federal crime – Ariana wouldn’t look good in prison garb!

]]> By: Quilly Mammoth http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55795 Quilly Mammoth Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:15:22 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55795 It was amazing. I blogged about it early this morning and by the time I got to work _all_ of the most offensive posts had been scrubbed. That'll teach me not to take screenshots of DU. It was amazing. I blogged about it early this morning and by the time I got to work _all_ of the most offensive posts had been scrubbed. That’ll teach me not to take screenshots of DU.

]]> By: The Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ » Blog Archive » Right Wing Bloggers Enjoying Feeding Frenzy Over The Huffington Post’s Exibition Of Responsible “Net Citizenship” http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55794 The Gun Toting Liberal â„¢ » Blog Archive » Right Wing Bloggers Enjoying Feeding Frenzy Over The Huffington Post’s Exibition Of Responsible “Net Citizenship” Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:17:11 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55794 [...] The Far-Right Digs Into The Huffpo Feeding Frenzy, The Left Remains Silent: Protein Wisdom; Red State; Jules Crittenden; Reihl World View; Blue Crab Boulevard Technorati Tags:  2008, Afghanistan, Bill OReilly, Blogging, Bush, Dick Cheney, Elections, FoxNews, GTL, Gun Toting Liberal, Huffington Post, Impeachment, Iraq, Michelle Malkin, MSM, News, News and Politics, Pajamas Media, Politics, Sean Hannity, Taliban, Terrorism [...] [...] The Far-Right Digs Into The Huffpo Feeding Frenzy, The Left Remains Silent: Protein Wisdom; Red State; Jules Crittenden; Reihl World View; Blue Crab Boulevard Technorati Tags:  2008, Afghanistan, Bill OReilly, Blogging, Bush, Dick Cheney, Elections, FoxNews, GTL, Gun Toting Liberal, Huffington Post, Impeachment, Iraq, Michelle Malkin, MSM, News, News and Politics, Pajamas Media, Politics, Sean Hannity, Taliban, Terrorism [...]

]]> By: TC@LeatherPenguin http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/comment-page-1/#comment-55792 TC@LeatherPenguin Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:24:05 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/27/down-the-memory-hole-2/#comment-55792 you gotta love Zsa-Zsa's House of Preening Moonbats. you gotta love Zsa-Zsa’s House of Preening Moonbats.

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