At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide……
…….I do not mean to say, that the scenes of the revolution are now or ever will be entirely forgotten; but that like every thing else, they must fade upon the memory of the world, and grow more and more dim by the lapse of time. In history, we hope, they will be read of, and recounted, so long as the bible shall be read;– but even granting that they will, their influence cannot be what it heretofore has been. Even then, they cannot be so universally known, nor so vividly felt, as they were by the generation just gone to rest. At the close of that struggle, nearly every adult male had been a participator in some of its scenes. The consequence was, that of those scenes, in the form of a husband, a father, a son or brother, a living history was to be found in every family– a history bearing the indubitable testimonies of its own authenticity, in the limbs mangled, in the scars of wounds received, in the midst of the very scenes related–a history, too, that could be read and understood alike by all, the wise and the ignorant, the learned and the unlearned.–But those histories are gone. They can be read no more forever. They were a fortress of strength; but, what invading foeman could never do, the silent artillery of time has done; the leveling of its walls. They are gone.–They were a forest of giant oaks; but the all-resistless hurricane has swept over them, and left only, here and there, a lonely trunk, despoiled of its verdure, shorn of its foliage; unshading and unshaded, to murmur in a few gentle breezes, and to combat with its mutilated limbs, a few more ruder storms, then to sink, and be no more.
They were the pillars of the temple of liberty; and now, that they have crumbled away, that temple must fall, unless we, their descendants, supply their places with other pillars, hewn from the solid quarry of sober reason.
Abraham Lincoln, The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions:
Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois
January 27, 1838"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
Abraham Lincoln, Senate Nomination Acceptance Speech
June 16, 1858
When Abraham Lincoln have his 'Lyceum' address, he was speaking of the passing of his era's "greatest generation". Those men who had fought the revolution against England and had formed the United States. He saw the danger of losing that institutional memory that had bound the original colonies into an indivisible nation. Twenty years later, he saw that the loss of that memory was putting the nation's sections on a collision course.
And now, with the passing of our "greatest generation", who fought fascism and totalitarianism, then willingly shouldered the burden of a long Cold War we have come full circle, yet again. The secessionists are holding a convention.
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. – In an unlikely marriage of desire to secede from the United States, two advocacy groups from opposite political traditions — New England and the South — are sitting down to talk.
Tired of foreign wars and what they consider right-wing courts, the Middlebury Institute wants liberal states like Vermont to be able to secede peacefully.
That sounds just fine to the League of the South, a conservative group that refuses to give up on Southern independence.
"We believe that an independent South, or Hawaii, Alaska, or Vermont would be better able to serve the interest of everybody, regardless of race or ethnicity," said Michael Hill of Killen, Ala., president of the League of the South.
Separated by hundreds of miles and divergent political philosophies, the Middlebury Institute and the League of the South are hosting a two-day Secessionist Convention starting Wednesday in Chattanooga.
They expect to attract supporters from California, Alaska and Hawaii, inviting anyone who wants to dissolve the Union so states can save themselves from an overbearing federal government.
If allowed to go their own way, New Englanders "probably would allow abortion and have gun control," Hill said, while Southerners "would probably crack down on illegal immigration harder than it is being now."
The more things change. "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." That about wraps it up.




Funny hasn’t it been states such as California and Vermont who have spent decades shoring up an over-bearing federal government? Global warming anyone? Smoking bans? Banning Christmas?
Boy this reminds of Liberals living in California or New York who move out of the Socialist hellholes they create because life under it has become so unbearable, to free states like Florida and Colorado bringing with them all the dreadful ideals which drove them away in the first place.
Nuts. In every way possible.
One thing is certain, between the rising power of Islamic-Fascism, Socialist Latin America and Communist China none of this stuff about ‘sucession’ will mean a darn thing in ten years.
I often think that Americans today are not personally suffering in quite enough misery for real unity to emerge. Unity is there, it’s just not threaten enough for us to reach a common bond.
I like the quote ‘so long as the Bible shall be read’, after all isn’t this where freedom comes from, God.
Just a thought, since freedom comes from God could anyone imagine as the Anglican Church was devoting itself to ending slavery all their church members saying:
‘While I am a Christian and believe that God gave all humans their freedom, I do not believe it’s my right to tell a slave owner what to do with his personal property therefore I cannot support the end of slavery”
I wonder if slavery would have never ended if those of the Christian faith spoke God words but left out the message.
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A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.
I still think the secessionists are way, way out on the political fringe. However, secession talk is a symptom of an electorate that has grown frustrated with an out of touch ruling class. SYN: Your comment 68221 is a good one.
Parenthetically, Wilson Tucker’s “The Lincoln Hunters” is about time travellers recording Lincoln’s Springfield speech.