Comments on: The Role Of Norman Bates Will Be Played By Charlie Rangel http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:00:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Philadelphia Steve http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70464 Philadelphia Steve Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:22:14 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70464 Re: " I started my life with nothing and now you want to make me feel that all the hard work and sacrifice should be realocated to support someone who made bad choices in life or thinks the government is better at taking care of you…" However the Republicans, with the full support of George W. Bush, passed all sorts of entitlements. The only difference is that Republicans put it on the credit card, mainly to the Chinese central bank, for our children to be impoverished paying off. But, of course, since those were REPUBLICANS, writing the IOU's, it was DIFFERENT. And all Conservatives are required to give the standard Republican FREE PASS, aren't they? Re: ” I started my life with nothing and now you want to make me feel that all the hard work and sacrifice should be realocated to support someone who made bad choices in life or thinks the government is better at taking care of you…”

However the Republicans, with the full support of George W. Bush, passed all sorts of entitlements. The only difference is that Republicans put it on the credit card, mainly to the Chinese central bank, for our children to be impoverished paying off.

But, of course, since those were REPUBLICANS, writing the IOU’s, it was DIFFERENT. And all Conservatives are required to give the standard Republican FREE PASS, aren’t they?

]]> By: Ray http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70461 Ray Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:27:23 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70461 It would be nice if this was tied to deficit reduction but it as usual is not... CHIPS, Universal Heath Care, Free College, 401K allocation programs, ect all need cash flow to be funded.... The top 5% of tax payers pay 80%+ of the taxes..40% of the taxpayers pay zero taxes. Tell me what is fare. Under Rangels plan a two earner family making $200K is considered rich... $100K is a common salary...Refer the the Civil Sevice Pay scale.... This country has Trillions of $$ in obligations (SSN, military retirement, civil sevice retirement, Medcare, Medicare drugs etc) that consume 48% of the budget. 9% of all budget outlays go to paying the trillions in government paper.... I started my life with nothing and now you want to make me feel that all the hard work and sacrifice should be realocated to support someone who made bad choices in life or thinks the government is better at taking care of you... I am a self made, income confortible person that sees the goose that lays the goldens eggs being killed by a group of elites... I can afford to go overseas for my health care, I can move my money to other countries and hid it from the IRS, I can simply move if need be... Be careful what you ask for...you may just get it...... Good Luck.. It would be nice if this was tied to deficit reduction but it as usual is not… CHIPS, Universal Heath Care, Free College, 401K allocation programs, ect all need cash flow to be funded…. The top 5% of tax payers pay 80%+ of the taxes..40% of the taxpayers pay zero taxes. Tell me what is fare. Under Rangels plan a two earner family making $200K is considered rich… $100K is a common salary…Refer the the Civil Sevice Pay scale…. This country has Trillions of $$ in obligations (SSN, military retirement, civil sevice retirement, Medcare, Medicare drugs etc) that consume 48% of the budget. 9% of all budget outlays go to paying the trillions in government paper…. I started my life with nothing and now you want to make me feel that all the hard work and sacrifice should be realocated to support someone who made bad choices in life or thinks the government is better at taking care of you… I am a self made, income confortible person that sees the goose that lays the goldens eggs being killed by a group of elites… I can afford to go overseas for my health care, I can move my money to other countries and hid it from the IRS, I can simply move if need be… Be careful what you ask for…you may just get it…… Good Luck..

]]> By: Philadelphia Steve http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70459 Philadelphia Steve Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:22:23 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70459 Actually Mr. Rangel's proposal is about paying for George W. Bush's occupation of iraq. You remember that one, the occupation that NeoConservatives promised would be "paid for by Iraqi oil money"? Or are Conservatives not permitted to speak of that? Actually Mr. Rangel’s proposal is about paying for George W. Bush’s occupation of iraq. You remember that one, the occupation that NeoConservatives promised would be “paid for by Iraqi oil money”?

Or are Conservatives not permitted to speak of that?

]]> By: W. ORR http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70431 W. ORR Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:32:26 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70431 Democrats are so stupid! It they want to pay for health care and all that other dumb, unnecessary stuff, why don't they pay for it the same way we're paying for the War on Terra: sell the country to China. Democrats are so stupid!

It they want to pay for health care and all that other dumb, unnecessary stuff, why don’t they pay for it the same way we’re paying for the War on Terra: sell the country to China.

]]> By: ME http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70428 ME Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:50:17 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70428 We aren't paying for our infrastructure now... we will pay dearly in the future. I hope some sanity does come back and our tax rates are brought to realistic levels, to fund what we need to fund. I know, republicans don't want the government to spend money, so they cut taxes and ignore necessary expenditures (like fixing bridges in minnesota). Great for their short term electoral progress... not good for the state overall. God forbid the democrats actually do stuff to maintain our infrastructure and pay down our debt. The rich have had it lucky. Lucky duckies... Have you even considered the cost of our debt? not just the debt itself, but it's effect on the value of the dollar... with 7 years of Bush, the dollar has fallen what 30%? And yeah, the payroll tax/ss debacle is the red herring in all of this. I pay the AMT. I get f-cked. Meanwhile, people making money off investments pay ~15% nominal tax rate. It's absurd. We aren’t paying for our infrastructure now… we will pay dearly in the future.

I hope some sanity does come back and our tax rates are brought to realistic levels, to fund what we need to fund.

I know, republicans don’t want the government to spend money, so they cut taxes and ignore necessary expenditures (like fixing bridges in minnesota). Great for their short term electoral progress… not good for the state overall.

God forbid the democrats actually do stuff to maintain our infrastructure and pay down our debt.

The rich have had it lucky. Lucky duckies…

Have you even considered the cost of our debt? not just the debt itself, but it’s effect on the value of the dollar… with 7 years of Bush, the dollar has fallen what 30%?

And yeah, the payroll tax/ss debacle is the red herring in all of this.

I pay the AMT. I get f-cked. Meanwhile, people making money off investments pay ~15% nominal tax rate. It’s absurd.

]]> By: jay k. http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70422 jay k. Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:10:17 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70422 well put neil. plus there is the disengenuouisness (sp?) of a president who attempted to use the ss "crisis" as a wedge issue...but continues to spend ss moneys without accounting for it in the budget numbers. add iraq and what he has spent out of ss to the budget and let's see how pathetic the deficit looks. fiscal responsibility...puhlease. well put neil. plus there is the disengenuouisness (sp?) of a president who attempted to use the ss “crisis” as a wedge issue…but continues to spend ss moneys without accounting for it in the budget numbers. add iraq and what he has spent out of ss to the budget and let’s see how pathetic the deficit looks. fiscal responsibility…puhlease.

]]> By: Neil http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70421 Neil Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:57:27 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70421 Why did we put this $500 BILLION pre-emptive war of agression in IRAQ on the national credit card? All the while Bush is giving out tax cuts to the INCOME of the extreamly wealthy. US CORPORATIONS move their profits off shore and dodge their taxes while Bush waves at his corporate financiers as says "keep those campaign conrtibutions coming." Republicans think their party can deliver tax cut after tax cut for themselves, their children and grand children but it's a shell game. The compounding effect of debt that pays interest means it'll call ost double what we paid for it, before we've paid for it. Wake up and smell the coffee. Why did we put this $500 BILLION pre-emptive war of agression in IRAQ on the national credit card?

All the while Bush is giving out tax cuts to the INCOME of the extreamly wealthy.

US CORPORATIONS move their profits off shore and dodge their taxes while Bush waves at his corporate financiers as says “keep those campaign conrtibutions coming.”

Republicans think their party can deliver tax cut after tax cut for themselves, their children and grand children but it’s a shell game.

The compounding effect of debt that pays interest means it’ll call ost double what we paid for it, before we’ve paid for it. Wake up and smell the coffee.

]]> By: jay k. http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70418 jay k. Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:40:14 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70418 i haven't read rangels plan so i can't comment. but i am curious how you expect the two trillion plus run up by our awol drunken air national guardsman president in iraq? he has simply licked that can down the street. how do you think it's going to get paid? i haven’t read rangels plan so i can’t comment. but i am curious how you expect the two trillion plus run up by our awol drunken air national guardsman president in iraq?
he has simply licked that can down the street. how do you think it’s going to get paid?

]]> By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70387 Gaius Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:20:13 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70387 Thanks for the tip. Thanks for the tip.

]]> By: feeblemind http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/comment-page-1/#comment-70385 feeblemind Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:44:12 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/10/29/the-role-of-norman-bates-will-be-played-by-charlie-rangel/#comment-70385 Over at the UK Daily Mail, a man walking his dog was attacked by a herd of 'KILLER COWS'. Over at the UK Daily Mail, a man walking his dog was attacked by a herd of ‘KILLER COWS’.

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