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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71268</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaius, supra:

&lt;blockquote&gt;... the presence of three cops will intimidate some people into allowing the search. Some people won’t know they can refuse. The program is easily abused - and will be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That might be true. But it&#039;s irrelevant to your earlier assertion that &quot;[t]he Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like warrants or probable cause.&quot; The Boston Police Department has decided no such thing, nor could it. 

Instead, the Department has decided -- consistent with well-settled principles of American constitutional law -- that warrants and probable cause are immaterial in the presence of a consensual search. That&#039;s especially true when, as here, the police have no plans to file criminal charges. (If this sounds familiar, it should. It&#039;s the same defense offered for Mr. Bush&#039;s warrantless surveillance of terrorists. There as here, the Government&#039;s aim is not to effect a criminal prosecution, but to prevent the commission of a crime.)

I agree that prudential considerations weigh against a consent to search. I would never allow the police into my home without a warrant. But that&#039;s not the same thing as saying that consensual searches are somehow unconstitutional. They are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaius, supra:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; the presence of three cops will intimidate some people into allowing the search. Some people won’t know they can refuse. The program is easily abused &#8211; and will be.</p></blockquote>
<p>That might be true. But it&#8217;s irrelevant to your earlier assertion that &#8220;[t]he Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like warrants or probable cause.&#8221; The Boston Police Department has decided no such thing, nor could it. </p>
<p>Instead, the Department has decided &#8212; consistent with well-settled principles of American constitutional law &#8212; that warrants and probable cause are immaterial in the presence of a consensual search. That&#8217;s especially true when, as here, the police have no plans to file criminal charges. (If this sounds familiar, it should. It&#8217;s the same defense offered for Mr. Bush&#8217;s warrantless surveillance of terrorists. There as here, the Government&#8217;s aim is not to effect a criminal prosecution, but to prevent the commission of a crime.)</p>
<p>I agree that prudential considerations weigh against a consent to search. I would never allow the police into my home without a warrant. But that&#8217;s not the same thing as saying that consensual searches are somehow unconstitutional. They are not.</p>
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		<title>By: NortonPete</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71254</link>
		<dc:creator>NortonPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if they find something illegal other than a gun? What about drugs? Do the police get to arrest anyone in the house? Sounds like a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if they find something illegal other than a gun? What about drugs? Do the police get to arrest anyone in the house? Sounds like a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: kidrob</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71252</link>
		<dc:creator>kidrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vee have vays of making you talk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vee have vays of making you talk!</p>
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		<title>By: Gaius</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71251</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can agree to let the police in and search. If you don&#039;t, they know who won&#039;t let them in. And the presence of three cops will intimidate some people into allowing the search. Some people won&#039;t know they can refuse. The program is easily abused - and will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can agree to let the police in and search. If you don&#8217;t, they know who won&#8217;t let them in. And the presence of three cops will intimidate some people into allowing the search. Some people won&#8217;t know they can refuse. The program is easily abused &#8211; and will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71248</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when has the Fourth Amendment been understood to prohibit consensual searches? Or is it your view that you get to decide who enters your home and mine too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when has the Fourth Amendment been understood to prohibit consensual searches? Or is it your view that you get to decide who enters your home and mine too?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71245</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like warrants or probable cause.&quot;

I expect the people who created this rule also criticized Mr. Bush for his alleged violations of the constitution. 

I actually have a lot of respect for the police all over the country. They have a tough, thankless job. This easily abused rule is something they&#039;ll have to be very careful with, or their jobs will become tougher and even more thankless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like warrants or probable cause.&#8221;</p>
<p>I expect the people who created this rule also criticized Mr. Bush for his alleged violations of the constitution. </p>
<p>I actually have a lot of respect for the police all over the country. They have a tough, thankless job. This easily abused rule is something they&#8217;ll have to be very careful with, or their jobs will become tougher and even more thankless.</p>
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		<title>By: at-the-water-cooler.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I don&#8217;t need no stinken warrant!</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71242</link>
		<dc:creator>at-the-water-cooler.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I don&#8217;t need no stinken warrant!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] timing of this is strange, Blue Crab Boulevards recent story (4:09 pm) 11/17The Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like wa... &#8221; Freedom Protects You From The Police- Plano PD [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] timing of this is strange, Blue Crab Boulevards recent story (4:09 pm) 11/17The Boston Police Department has decided that there is no longer any need for trivial things like wa&#8230; &#8221; Freedom Protects You From The Police- Plano PD [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quilly Mammoth</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71233</link>
		<dc:creator>Quilly Mammoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Enjoy your new shoulder patch, &lt;strike&gt;Commissioner&lt;/strike&gt; Commissar Edward F. Davis, you&#039;ve certainly earned it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There.  Fixed it for you.
;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Enjoy your new shoulder patch, <strike>Commissioner</strike> Commissar Edward F. Davis, you&#8217;ve certainly earned it.</p></blockquote>
<p>There.  Fixed it for you.<br />
 <img src='http://bluecrabboulevard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: justbarkingmad.com</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71232</link>
		<dc:creator>justbarkingmad.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Beantown Brownshirts...&lt;/strong&gt;

This has just popped on a number of places and Gauis has created a great new logo for Beantown&#8217;s Brownshirts.

It seems that Boston&#8217;s Police Department has decided that the Constitution of The United States of America is something for them ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Beantown Brownshirts&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This has just popped on a number of places and Gauis has created a great new logo for Beantown&#8217;s Brownshirts.</p>
<p>It seems that Boston&#8217;s Police Department has decided that the Constitution of The United States of America is something for them &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DavidL</title>
		<link>http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/11/17/stand-still-laddie/comment-page-1/#comment-71231</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizens are allowed to keep and bear arms.  Serfs are not.  Are you a citizen or a serf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizens are allowed to keep and bear arms.  Serfs are not.  Are you a citizen or a serf?</p>
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