Comments on: When Reality Catches Up With Fraudulent Windy Promises http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/ Summum nec metuas diem, nec optes - Marcus Valerius Martialis Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:41:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85676 Gaius Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:52:42 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85676 Oh yeah, Tom. I did not mention that in the original post, but the space demands of low-density generation like wind or solar (or hydro - think about the size of the reservoirs needed) are extreme compared to the high-density output of a conventional power plant (nuclear, coal or gas). "Green" generation takes a huge amount of space, is hideously ugly and has an enormous hidden cost - that spinning reserve that has to be there when the sun goes behind a cloud or the wind just stops or there is a major drought. Oh yeah, Tom. I did not mention that in the original post, but the space demands of low-density generation like wind or solar (or hydro – think about the size of the reservoirs needed) are extreme compared to the high-density output of a conventional power plant (nuclear, coal or gas). “Green” generation takes a huge amount of space, is hideously ugly and has an enormous hidden cost – that spinning reserve that has to be there when the sun goes behind a cloud or the wind just stops or there is a major drought.

]]> By: Ropelight http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85672 Ropelight Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:15:49 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85672 Thank you. I recall the original post and have used the information repeatedly to explain why wind generation isn't the answer to our need for electrical power. I mentioned it to a friend day before yesterday in fact. Reading it again just now was a treat. Thanks again. Thank you. I recall the original post and have used the information repeatedly to explain why wind generation isn’t the answer to our need for electrical power. I mentioned it to a friend day before yesterday in fact. Reading it again just now was a treat. Thanks again.

]]> By: Tom http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85661 Tom Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:48:51 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85661 Hi Gaius. Read an article sometime back that the amount of space needed for a windfarm is absolutely huge compared to a conventional power plant. We could cover entire states with these things and only meet a fraction of what is demanded. The practicality isn't there any more than the cost to benefit ratio. And subsidies won't help the finances - the money has to come from somewhere... Hi Gaius. Read an article sometime back that the amount of space needed for a windfarm is absolutely huge compared to a conventional power plant. We could cover entire states with these things and only meet a fraction of what is demanded.

The practicality isn’t there any more than the cost to benefit ratio. And subsidies won’t help the finances – the money has to come from somewhere…

]]> By: crosspatch http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85653 crosspatch Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:34:24 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85653 Gaius, It is your fault that Austin didn't work out. See, it is all about Peter Pan economics. If everyone just believes really hard and sends positive vibes, the universe will manifest clean, green, affordable, renewable power. But you didn't believe. That messed it up for everyone else. It's all your fault. Gaius,

It is your fault that Austin didn’t work out. See, it is all about Peter Pan economics. If everyone just believes really hard and sends positive vibes, the universe will manifest clean, green, affordable, renewable power. But you didn’t believe. That messed it up for everyone else.

It’s all your fault.

]]> By: Anthony (Los Angeles) http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85649 Anthony (Los Angeles) Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:45:05 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85649 At least they're not blocking Ted Kennedy's view with those turbines. That would be unacceptable. At least they’re not blocking Ted Kennedy’s view with those turbines. That would be unacceptable.

]]> By: Gaius http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85648 Gaius Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:51:28 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85648 Actually, I am not missing the point. Sad, isn't it? Actually, I am not missing the point.

Sad, isn’t it?

]]> By: Hrothgar http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2009/07/13/when-reality-catches-up-with-fraudulent-windy-promises/comment-page-1/#comment-85647 Hrothgar Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:58:38 +0000 http://bluecrabboulevard.com/?p=12948#comment-85647 You are missing the point. It is the principle of the thing, not the cost to consumers that is important. We will all have to sacrifice to achieve mandated greeness (unless, of course, we are Democrat elites). You are missing the point. It is the principle of the thing, not the cost to consumers that is important. We will all have to sacrifice to achieve mandated greeness (unless, of course, we are Democrat elites).

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